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    tomaskir
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    Could you please try the same captures with 2.0-RC2?

    I remember there were some changes to SNMPv3 in the 2.0 branch that fixed some edge-cases... but I might be wrong.
    (and I dont know if any of those will apply to you or not)

    Thanks in advance!

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      gmonk63
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      Here you go.. Its seems worse with 2.0-RC2  I had to reboot my switch several times because it was continually trying several times per second and by default the ruggedcoms will quit responding after so many failed attempts. I also attached the switch debug screen. I have also tried 1.2.17 linux version running on ubuntu thinking maybe it was a windows thing


      netxsm_2.0-RC2.png

      Switch_debug.png

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        Victor Kirhenshtein
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        Hi,

        it could be a bug in NetXMS SNMP library. Is it possibe to get access over SNMP to your switch so we can test and fix it? Please send me private message if that's possible.

        Best regards,
        Victor

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          Victor Kirhenshtein
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          #11

          Hi,

          I've fixed bug in SNMP library, thanks for the access to the switch! Fix will be included in 2.0 release. If you built NetXMS from sources I can provide you a patch.

          Best regards,
          Victor

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          • Dani@M3TU
            Dani@M3TU
            Dani@M3T
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            #12

            Hi Victor

            I would be interested in the source code patch. Is the problem with the SNMP auth. failures a separate thing?

            Thanks
            Dani

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              gmonk63
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              could you provide me the patch

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                gmonk63
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                #14

                And by the way thank you for the quick fix ....you mentioned the fix will be released in 2.0 ... ive been wanting to move to 2.0 rc but wasnt sure how stable things are and didnt want to have to migrate everything from 1.2  .. how far along would you guess 2.0 is from being stable release

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                  Victor Kirhenshtein
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                  Hi,

                  patch for src/snmp/libnxsnmp/transport.cpp attached.

                  We plan to make 2.0 release before December 10th.

                  Best regards,
                  Victor


                  snmpv3.patch

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                  • Dani@M3TU
                    Dani@M3TU
                    Dani@M3T
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                    #16

                    Thanks Victor for the patch and your work in general!!
                    Now I'm only waiting for a patch for the snmp authentication failures (other thread). Then I hope our SNMP problems are gone in NetXMS.

                    Dani

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                    • Dani@M3TU
                      Dani@M3TU
                      Dani@M3T
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                      #17

                      We have a new problem with SNMP, maybe something similar as the points above.

                      We use NetXMS V2.0-RC2 compiled with patched transport.cpp (I attached the patched one).

                      After Software Update on some ZyXEL Access-Points these devices stop responding to SNMPv3 (SHA1, AES) after a while. I also checked by snmpwalk on command line. I have to reboot the affected Access-Points, but after a short while the same. When I disable all SNMP on these nodes in NetXMS, SNMP on these APs are stable (checked by snmpwalk on command line).
                      Which information do you need for further troubleshooting?

                      thanks
                      Dani


                      transport.cpp

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                        Victor Kirhenshtein
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                        Hi,

                        how fast device stops responding to SNMP? If you disable SNMP in NetXMS and run snmpwalk or snmpget from command line in a loop, will it have the same effect?

                        Best regards,
                        Victor

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                          Dani@M3TU
                          Dani@M3T
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                          Hi Victor

                          First I thought it's only by configuration polls. But some APs 'crash' quite fast, after a few minutes. But I also saw APs where it lasts longer. I can start about 50 snmpwalks from command line in short time without any problems (about 20 OIDs each). Only disabling configuration polls on these nodes is not enough. I have to disable SNMP completely for these nodes. If SNMP is completely disabled the SNMP service on these APs are stable permanent.

                          thanks
                          Dani

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                            Victor Kirhenshtein
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                            Try to disable routing table and topology polls.

                            Best regards,
                            Victor

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                              Dani@M3TU
                              Dani@M3T
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                              #21

                              Ok I will try on one AP.
                              So only NetXMS agent-, routing table- and topology-polling are disabled, everything else is enabled again. I will check and report.

                              Beside I also have SNMP_AUTH_FAILURE events on these nodes (since V2.0-RC2)

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                                Dani@M3TU
                                Dani@M3T
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                                #22

                                Hi Victor

                                The test AP is now stable for 18h. I only have tested with one of the affected APs because of some other APs I do not have credentials to reboot. I have to contact my customer each time.
                                Do you have a suspicion?

                                thanks
                                Dani

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                                  gmonk63
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                                  Dani@M3T

                                  I think you are still experiencing  this issue https://www.netxms.org/forum/configuration/snmp-credentials/  I dont think the patch fixed this particular error where even though snmpv3 credentials now work the server is still sending out some requests with public as default ..  I am seeing the same thing on my test switch snmpv3 and v2 works great now but I am still seeing snmp auth failures  about 100 a day but on our switches there is a threshold that can be set  I think the default is 10 failures in a minute before its stops responding which i increased untill this gets fixed ....

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                                    Dani@M3TU
                                    Dani@M3T
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                                    #24

                                    I know the other issue. But I'm not so sure it is the same. One test node only with deactivated topology and routing table polling is stable for 24h.

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                                      Victor Kirhenshtein
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                                      So it seems that topology or routing table polls cause SNMP agent hang in access points. Most likely it's a bug in SNMP agent. We can try to narrow it further by enabling one of the polls. Topology poll usually do more requests than routing table poll.

                                      Best regards,
                                      Victor

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                                        Dani@M3TU
                                        Dani@M3T
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                                        #26

                                        Hi Victor

                                        I made these tests:

                                        • reenabled routing table poll, waiting 20h -> SNMP agent on node still replying
                                        • reenable topology polling, waiting about 20h -> SNMP agent dead

                                        But what can we do? Is it a problem in NetXMS or in SNMP implementation on node? If it is the second I need good arguments for there support 😉

                                        edit:
                                        A later test with disabled topology poll -> SNMP agent dead again
                                        So the problem is not fixed to topology poll 😞

                                        thanks
                                        Dani

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                                        • Dani@M3TU
                                          Dani@M3TU
                                          Dani@M3T
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                                          #27

                                          I will try it with a support case at the vendor of the APs.

                                          Another problem on other SNMP enabled nodes:
                                          Suddenly no SNMP data is possible to poll. But the SNMP agent on these nodes are fine (test by snmpwalk on command line).
                                          When I restart netxmsd everything is fine again. It's also with SNMPv3.

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